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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work full time while my husband is in grad school.  He is not currently working while on summer break. It is a struggle for me - not because I work and he doesn&#039;t, but because I come home at the end of a long day and the only thing he&#039;s done that day is played video games and maybe emptied the dishwasher, if I&#039;m lucky.

The hard part is that most of my income goes to paying for his school.  I know that he is grateful, but I feel myself fighting bitterness frequently.  It&#039;s also hard because when he&#039;s in school, we&#039;re leading very different lives than when we both worked.  It&#039;s become more difficult to relate to one another in that way also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work full time while my husband is in grad school.  He is not currently working while on summer break. It is a struggle for me &#8211; not because I work and he doesn&#8217;t, but because I come home at the end of a long day and the only thing he&#8217;s done that day is played video games and maybe emptied the dishwasher, if I&#8217;m lucky.</p>
<p>The hard part is that most of my income goes to paying for his school.  I know that he is grateful, but I feel myself fighting bitterness frequently.  It&#8217;s also hard because when he&#8217;s in school, we&#8217;re leading very different lives than when we both worked.  It&#8217;s become more difficult to relate to one another in that way also.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are divorcing over this very topic.  I am self employed and going through a very hard situation job wise but my spouse sees the present chaos as permanant and refuses to see the light up ahead in the near future.  In a way I&#039;m glad that this is coming up so incredibly early in our marriage (&lt; a year) because I agree that it isn&#039;t about the money at all, but about the partnership, as others have said, and that he is the type that most likely would have left me if I developed some horrible disease or was seriously injured or disabled from a car accident or something.  

I took my vows seriously and meant it when I said &quot;for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer&quot;.  I made a lot of sacrifices for the marriage already (selling my place at a huge loss, changing my name, moving to his house), but the worst part is having him lord over me his higher salary.  Right now I am eating sandwiches and can&#039;t afford to go out for anything, meanwhile, he&#039;s buying $700 bikes and hiring private voice lessons!

The funniest thing is that he claims that he would like to be a stay at home dad someday, but I would NEVER treat my spouse who would stay at home like he has to me as far as begrudging me necessities of life like he does now because my business has been hit really hard by the economic downturn and I can&#039;t afford it myself, for the first time in my life.  

He complains that his heating bill went up 32% since I moved in, but he had it set at 59 degrees, uncomfortably cold for any normal human, plus heating costs went up this year, lastly, he has refused to let me install the insulation we desperatly need that I&#039;ve got plenty of gift cards for because he&#039;s so controlling that I will somehow do it &quot;wrong&quot;, so he doesn&#039;t let me participate in solving the problem in a non financial way either -infuriating! 

I told my parents &quot;I thought a marriage was all about working through problems, not running the moment you hit one, because there&#039;s always going to be another one that comes up over time&quot;.  They agree with me, but apparently my spouse does not, which is pitiful and makes me feel so damn lonely right now.  I&#039;ve lost not only my husband, but my friend in all this, and I&#039;ve also lost faith that I can ever trust another man to be my husband because this has been so devastating to me.  

He did say from the start that he &quot;couldn&#039;t be with someone who needed him&quot;, but I thought that since I was independent and doing decently at the time that it wouldn&#039;t be a problem for us ever, or by that time we&#039;d both naturally have leaned on each other like married couples do and he would feel finally safe after a crappy childhood and be able to trust someone else other than himself, but obviously I was wrong.  

This is a great topic to bring up so that it can open the discussion about roles, power and money and give people the freedom to make their marriage the best combination of the three as they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are divorcing over this very topic.  I am self employed and going through a very hard situation job wise but my spouse sees the present chaos as permanant and refuses to see the light up ahead in the near future.  In a way I&#8217;m glad that this is coming up so incredibly early in our marriage (&lt; a year) because I agree that it isn&#8217;t about the money at all, but about the partnership, as others have said, and that he is the type that most likely would have left me if I developed some horrible disease or was seriously injured or disabled from a car accident or something.  </p>
<p>I took my vows seriously and meant it when I said &#8220;for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer&#8221;.  I made a lot of sacrifices for the marriage already (selling my place at a huge loss, changing my name, moving to his house), but the worst part is having him lord over me his higher salary.  Right now I am eating sandwiches and can&#8217;t afford to go out for anything, meanwhile, he&#8217;s buying $700 bikes and hiring private voice lessons!</p>
<p>The funniest thing is that he claims that he would like to be a stay at home dad someday, but I would NEVER treat my spouse who would stay at home like he has to me as far as begrudging me necessities of life like he does now because my business has been hit really hard by the economic downturn and I can&#8217;t afford it myself, for the first time in my life.  </p>
<p>He complains that his heating bill went up 32% since I moved in, but he had it set at 59 degrees, uncomfortably cold for any normal human, plus heating costs went up this year, lastly, he has refused to let me install the insulation we desperatly need that I&#8217;ve got plenty of gift cards for because he&#8217;s so controlling that I will somehow do it &#8220;wrong&#8221;, so he doesn&#8217;t let me participate in solving the problem in a non financial way either -infuriating! </p>
<p>I told my parents &#8220;I thought a marriage was all about working through problems, not running the moment you hit one, because there&#8217;s always going to be another one that comes up over time&#8221;.  They agree with me, but apparently my spouse does not, which is pitiful and makes me feel so damn lonely right now.  I&#8217;ve lost not only my husband, but my friend in all this, and I&#8217;ve also lost faith that I can ever trust another man to be my husband because this has been so devastating to me.  </p>
<p>He did say from the start that he &#8220;couldn&#8217;t be with someone who needed him&#8221;, but I thought that since I was independent and doing decently at the time that it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem for us ever, or by that time we&#8217;d both naturally have leaned on each other like married couples do and he would feel finally safe after a crappy childhood and be able to trust someone else other than himself, but obviously I was wrong.  </p>
<p>This is a great topic to bring up so that it can open the discussion about roles, power and money and give people the freedom to make their marriage the best combination of the three as they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the others who said this issue is more about partnership than gender. Kelly is right - it does go both ways; a woman&#039;s esteem can be just as bruised when she makes less than her husband and doesn&#039;t feel valued.

I also agree on Alisa&#039;s point about the worrying... it is more stressful for me worrying if I lose my job there is a bigger gap to fill.

For the record, I make about 30% more than my husband.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the others who said this issue is more about partnership than gender. Kelly is right &#8211; it does go both ways; a woman&#8217;s esteem can be just as bruised when she makes less than her husband and doesn&#8217;t feel valued.</p>
<p>I also agree on Alisa&#8217;s point about the worrying&#8230; it is more stressful for me worrying if I lose my job there is a bigger gap to fill.</p>
<p>For the record, I make about 30% more than my husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a husband who is the &quot;bread winner&quot; with a stay at home, full-time, wife and mother, I often feel that I am not contributing may fair share. The loving, nurturing, teaching and growing of our children IS life. She does my life&#039;s work for me. I provide financial backing and cheer her on from the sidelines. It is hard to hear of all the growing, loving, learning, and living that happens when I am out doing trivial tasks at work. Our children are our joy in life. I contribute next to nothing. When I lay my gray hairs on my pillow for the last time I cannot fathom thinking, &quot;I wish I contributed more financially.&quot; I can imagine thinking, &quot;Thank God for a wife who loved and raised our children for me.&quot;

I don&#039;t think that my contribution is worthless, someone has to do it. The basic necessities of life are a requirement and must be earned some how. After that is when living really begins. Beyond that is what my wife provides and teaches to our children. The day to day grind and challenges that she faces are in and of themselves ennobling and glorious. I include changing dirty diapers: while she is changing dirty diapers she is kissing little toes and blowing on little tummies and listening to little giggles. The day to day grind and challenges that I face are only ennobling and glorious as far as they allow her to continue on God&#039;s errand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a husband who is the &#8220;bread winner&#8221; with a stay at home, full-time, wife and mother, I often feel that I am not contributing may fair share. The loving, nurturing, teaching and growing of our children IS life. She does my life&#8217;s work for me. I provide financial backing and cheer her on from the sidelines. It is hard to hear of all the growing, loving, learning, and living that happens when I am out doing trivial tasks at work. Our children are our joy in life. I contribute next to nothing. When I lay my gray hairs on my pillow for the last time I cannot fathom thinking, &#8220;I wish I contributed more financially.&#8221; I can imagine thinking, &#8220;Thank God for a wife who loved and raised our children for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that my contribution is worthless, someone has to do it. The basic necessities of life are a requirement and must be earned some how. After that is when living really begins. Beyond that is what my wife provides and teaches to our children. The day to day grind and challenges that she faces are in and of themselves ennobling and glorious. I include changing dirty diapers: while she is changing dirty diapers she is kissing little toes and blowing on little tummies and listening to little giggles. The day to day grind and challenges that I face are only ennobling and glorious as far as they allow her to continue on God&#8217;s errand.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree, Hayden - that&#039;s the main issue (and what I was stumbling to express myself).  I want to feel like a partner, and I don&#039;t always get that feeling when I&#039;m making so much less.  I feel like I&#039;m being carried, and that can be hard to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree, Hayden &#8211; that&#8217;s the main issue (and what I was stumbling to express myself).  I want to feel like a partner, and I don&#8217;t always get that feeling when I&#8217;m making so much less.  I feel like I&#8217;m being carried, and that can be hard to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Hayden Tompkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayden Tompkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Chris and I first met, we made about the same amount of money.  When we left Florida, he took a huge pay cut (and I was the &quot;breadwinner&quot; for several years) but has now completely moved into his field and is rocking a much more substantial salary.  I, on the other hand, quit my job and am making a lot less money.  

I currently make 22.4% of what my husband does!

As someone who is a very independent person, and who has always paid her own way, I do feel a little disconcerted about the whole thing.  I honestly don&#039;t feel that I am contributing as much as I should.  

I don&#039;t think this is a &quot;gender&quot; issue, at least for us.  I don&#039;t need to feel like the breadwinner, I need to feel like a partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Chris and I first met, we made about the same amount of money.  When we left Florida, he took a huge pay cut (and I was the &#8220;breadwinner&#8221; for several years) but has now completely moved into his field and is rocking a much more substantial salary.  I, on the other hand, quit my job and am making a lot less money.  </p>
<p>I currently make 22.4% of what my husband does!</p>
<p>As someone who is a very independent person, and who has always paid her own way, I do feel a little disconcerted about the whole thing.  I honestly don&#8217;t feel that I am contributing as much as I should.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a &#8220;gender&#8221; issue, at least for us.  I don&#8217;t need to feel like the breadwinner, I need to feel like a partner.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read different blogs out there, not judging others is a reoccurring blog post.  I agree that society can be judgmental, often chipping away at the pride of men.  How many times have I heard that a guy was a slacker for staying home and a woman was being taken advantage of if she was the bread winner.  It&#039;s not true.  There have been times when I made more and my hub was just glad for the extra money.  He said, &quot;If I have to choose between my ego and the money, I&#039;ll take the money.&quot;

You are so right when you say, &quot;Whatever is brought to the table needs to be brought humbly.&quot;  I think that is true whether it&#039;s extra money, education, intelligence, creativity, or some skill.  We all have different things to bring and while some may stand out more than others, all things brought to the table help in its own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read different blogs out there, not judging others is a reoccurring blog post.  I agree that society can be judgmental, often chipping away at the pride of men.  How many times have I heard that a guy was a slacker for staying home and a woman was being taken advantage of if she was the bread winner.  It&#8217;s not true.  There have been times when I made more and my hub was just glad for the extra money.  He said, &#8220;If I have to choose between my ego and the money, I&#8217;ll take the money.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are so right when you say, &#8220;Whatever is brought to the table needs to be brought humbly.&#8221;  I think that is true whether it&#8217;s extra money, education, intelligence, creativity, or some skill.  We all have different things to bring and while some may stand out more than others, all things brought to the table help in its own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisa Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisa Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made more than my husband dating back to the day we met. It started with a $4000 difference in salary that grew over time. Now I earn 3-4x as much as he does. It really can be an issue because:

1) I worry a lot. We cannot make ends meet on his salary (which goes from zero to about $30,000 on a good year). I don&#039;t need to worry as much as I do, but I&#039;ve talked to many men and women about this and have determined that women are wired differently. Male providers just seem to take it in stride. Or maybe I&#039;m just neurotic... That&#039;s probable.

2) My husband has no power. When one person earns a lot more, the power really shifts in a relationship and both people have to work really hard not to take advantage of that situation. It&#039;s easy for me, for instance, to act like his boss and order him around, but that&#039;s not good for our marriage.

3) It&#039;s hard for me to see my husband as strong. This is one of those societal things that Corey mentioned in the blog. I wish I didn&#039;t buy into all of the conditioning that I received as a child that &quot;men take care of women,&quot; but I&#039;d be lying if I said it didn&#039;t bother me. To compensate, I try to notice all of the other ways my husband is manly, like how he can light a grill (I have no idea how to do that) or change my brake pads (ditto).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made more than my husband dating back to the day we met. It started with a $4000 difference in salary that grew over time. Now I earn 3-4x as much as he does. It really can be an issue because:</p>
<p>1) I worry a lot. We cannot make ends meet on his salary (which goes from zero to about $30,000 on a good year). I don&#8217;t need to worry as much as I do, but I&#8217;ve talked to many men and women about this and have determined that women are wired differently. Male providers just seem to take it in stride. Or maybe I&#8217;m just neurotic&#8230; That&#8217;s probable.</p>
<p>2) My husband has no power. When one person earns a lot more, the power really shifts in a relationship and both people have to work really hard not to take advantage of that situation. It&#8217;s easy for me, for instance, to act like his boss and order him around, but that&#8217;s not good for our marriage.</p>
<p>3) It&#8217;s hard for me to see my husband as strong. This is one of those societal things that Corey mentioned in the blog. I wish I didn&#8217;t buy into all of the conditioning that I received as a child that &#8220;men take care of women,&#8221; but I&#8217;d be lying if I said it didn&#8217;t bother me. To compensate, I try to notice all of the other ways my husband is manly, like how he can light a grill (I have no idea how to do that) or change my brake pads (ditto).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smalley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Smalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep begging my wife to earn more than me! I&#039;ve never really had an issue about who works in our family, and funny enough, we both work together.  My wife probably wishes I&#039;d do more than her =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep begging my wife to earn more than me! I&#8217;ve never really had an issue about who works in our family, and funny enough, we both work together.  My wife probably wishes I&#8217;d do more than her =]</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this timely post. My husband just graduated and doesn&#039;t start work until December. At that point he&#039;ll be making more than me, but in the meantime I think it really does affect his self-esteem. And while I could do great being home all the time, he gets very lonely. We&#039;re looking at having him start a part-time job for the interim, but he is going to be studying for the CPA so he doesn&#039;t want to be too tied up. I need to think of a way to reinforce his manliness . . . just thought of one. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this timely post. My husband just graduated and doesn&#8217;t start work until December. At that point he&#8217;ll be making more than me, but in the meantime I think it really does affect his self-esteem. And while I could do great being home all the time, he gets very lonely. We&#8217;re looking at having him start a part-time job for the interim, but he is going to be studying for the CPA so he doesn&#8217;t want to be too tied up. I need to think of a way to reinforce his manliness . . . just thought of one. <img src='http://www.simplemarriage.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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